Meta's Muse shipped with a spyable zero-day, uploaded private messages without permission, and ignored user settings; Apple changed macOS rules in response
- Meta's agentic assistant Muse shipped with a zero-day that let attackers spy on Mac users, and researchers found anyone could get root access on the host machine by simply pretending to be a Muse agent.
- Muse read and uploaded users' private Apple Messages to the cloud without approval, even when told not to, so Apple changed macOS Full Disk Access permissions to stop third-party apps from abusing them.
- Wired found Muse builds detailed profiles of friends, family, colleagues and accounts you follow, while 404 Media reported Meta rushed hot fixes before launch instead of delaying, with senior engineers calling a massive data breach inevitable. Muse is called 'Hatch' internally.
- A YouTuber who put Muse in charge of his Facebook Marketplace sales saw it price his items far below acceptable rates and hand out his home address, and Meta's own help pages still claim the product was built with a heavy focus on privacy and security.
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The only Muse ads I've seen don't mention Meta at all.
Go to meta.com and there's not a single mention of Facebook or Instagram anywhere, even though those are the money makers. They know the brands are toxic.
It's all by design. Meta has a long history of shipping products with security 'flaws' that conveniently end up collecting vast amounts of data about people.
Again? At this point it looks intentional, not sloppy.
100% intentional. Go back and look at what they did with the Facebook app.
I get the appeal of agents, this is the future stuff we always wanted. But I can't give one access to my bank account, my email, or my chat history. I don't trust any of them with my money or my conversations.
Same boat. After watching context rot and inference collapse, I'm not trusting any LLM with mission critical work.
The missing piece for hooking an agent to your card is financial liability. If Meta or OpenAI guaranteed full compensation for anything that wasn't supposed to happen, and had a track record of actually paying, I'd loosen up.
We're not in the optimistic 1990s anymore. The prevailing business model is convenience as a lure to lock in dependent users and extract value from them. Unless the agent runs on a platform I manage, it's all counterparty risk.
I run mine mostly offline on hardware I own that sits in my garage. It baffles me that I'm the only technical person I know who uses AI this way.
I built an agent to iterate on a stock trading strategy against a virtual brokerage account, then I follow along with real money. Shopping could work the same way: agent finds the deal, I hit buy. No merchant will have sympathy for 'my AI bought this by mistake.'
You can get price comparison without purchases. I downloaded Muse, had it find me underwear, narrowed the options down, then went and bought it myself.
Speak for yourself about the future we always wanted. The most valuable feature of a computer is predictability. I want tools, not agents.
We keep saying we have the Star Trek computer, but we don't. We have a computer we have to distrust, which flips one of the two variables.
Muse is basically OpenClaw with all the same pros and cons. Except I really don't trust Meta to get any of this right.
Someone had ChatGPT go through an old email account and surface memories they'd completely forgotten, and they're fine with Sama having their emails now. That's the trade people are making, and calling it paranoia isn't fair.